womanJoan of England ‏‎, daughter of John "Lackland" King of England, King of England and Isabella de Taillefer Queen of England, Queen of England‏.
BORN_SHORT ‎22 jul 1210 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England‎, DIED_SHORT ‎4 mar 1237-1238 Havering-atte-Bower, Essex, England‎, 27 or 28 years, BURIED_SHORT ‎ Tarrant, Keynstan, Dorset, England

CONFLICT: Records show this Joan was married twice. However, she is also shown as child of John "Lackland" but with two different mothers: Isabella de Taillefer and Agatha de Ferrers. Below are indications of two additional mothers:
Paul K. Davis at gives the lineage of Richard Price through his mother Elizabeth Herbert, back to Dafydd, who died in 1246, son of Llywelyn ab Iorwerth and Joan. [see: "Gruffud ap Cynan 5".] and then says that Joan was the daughter of king John ("Plantagenet") and Clemencia.
From Phil Moody:
"The Augustan" Volume XXVI, , by Robert Joseph Curfman, p. 22:
"Through the efforts in 1972 of Professor Charles J. Jacobs (a member of The Augustan Society, Inc.) of Bridgeport, Connecticut, it is now apparently accepted that Constance of Brittany was the mistress by whom John of England had his natural daughter Joan, Princess of North Wales, [1] who became the wife of Llywelyn Fawr ("the Great") ab Iorwerth Drwyndwn, Prince of North Wales 1194-1240, and mother of his only legitimate son Prince Dafydd II. [2] Why the mother of Joan was entered in the Annals of Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, in 1236 as "Queen Clemencia" (also found "Clementia") rahter than Constancia is explained credibly by Professor Jacobs, this entry once thought wrongly to have been a pseudonym for Isabel of Gloucester, the divorced wife of John, or of Agatha de Ferrers. [3]
It has been stated that a "liason" between John and Constance 'would have required a papal dispensation.' [4] Here one might consider that being related to a mistress did not trouble John, for he seduced 'his first cousin,' the sister of 'Earlilliam de Warren.' [5] In addition, he fathered at least seven illegitimate children by as many mistresses [6] and scorned the authority of the Pope.
[1] Prof. Charles J. Jacobs, "'Clemencia' Mother of Joan, Princess of North Wales; An Attempted Identification" in "The American Genealogist 48 (1972 176-8 [TAG].
[2] The Genealogist 1 [1980]:88-9
[3] "Annales de Theokesberia" [1066-1263] in "Annales Monastici", ed. Henry Richards Luard, 5 vols. (London, 1864-9) in the Rolls Series; TAG 48:176.
[4] Marilyn Lewis, "The Ancestry of Elizabeth of York", 3 vols., eds. John Stuart and Kenneth Harper Finton (Arvada, Colorado, 1999) 1:285, entry 4975.
[5] Sidney Painter, "The Reign of King John" (Baltimore: The Johns Hopkins Press, 1949) 305.
[6] Wilfred Lewis Warren, "King John" (New York, 1961) 26 [Warren]; Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. "Royal Bye-Blows, The Illegitimate Children of the English Kings from William I to Edward III," in "The New England Historical and Genealogical Register (1965) 119:98.

Married ‎21 jun 1221 York Minster, York, Yorkshire, England,
STATUS: 1st marriage for husband.

CONDITION: No issue of this marriage.
(16 or 17 years married) to:


manAlexander II King of Scots, King of Scots‏, Nickname: Alexander II, Alexandre II, Alexandre II d'Ecosse‎
BORN_SHORT ‎24 aug 1198 Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland‎, DIED_SHORT ‎8 jul 1249 Isle of Kerrara, Bay of Ohan‎, 50 years, BURIED_SHORT ‎ Melrose Abbey, Melrose, Roxburghshire, Scotland

LOCATION: The bay of Ohan is near the Sound of Mull.

IDENTITY: Succeeded father and crowned 6 Dec 1214 at Scone.


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